Comments on: The movie 300: Orientalism, alive and well http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/ A blog for and about the Nido Generation Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:11:01 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: nido http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/#comment-4012 nido Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:19:47 +0000 http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/#comment-4012 Hi Dave, My only beef with all of what you said is this "aryan" stuff. Of course the movie is racist, orientalist, etc, but this aryan mythology is another form of orientalism in my opinion. It started back in the eighteenth centuries with these new linguo-race theories, where people started connecting race to languages. So somehow Iran became the same "Aryan" race as Germany basically because there were some language connections . Now anyone who has set foot in Iran knows that it isn't exactly a hotbed of pasty white blond people (although obviously there are a few). In fact looks wise you'd probably hae a very hard time distinguishing between Iranians and people from other Middle Eastern countries. This area (Middle East) is so mixed in terms of ethnicity and culture that any talk of some form of race is pretty much meaningless. Unfortunately some Iranians have bought into this Aryan-german connection race myth because they think it elevates them somehow to be connected to Europeans. Thanks for stopping by and the comment. Hi Dave,

My only beef with all of what you said is this “aryan” stuff. Of course the movie is racist, orientalist, etc, but this aryan mythology is another form of orientalism in my opinion. It started back in the eighteenth centuries with these new linguo-race theories, where people started connecting race to languages. So somehow Iran became the same “Aryan” race as Germany basically because there were some language connections . Now anyone who has set foot in Iran knows that it isn’t exactly a hotbed of pasty white blond people (although obviously there are a few). In fact looks wise you’d probably hae a very hard time distinguishing between Iranians and people from other Middle Eastern countries. This area (Middle East) is so mixed in terms of ethnicity and culture that any talk of some form of race is pretty much meaningless. Unfortunately some Iranians have bought into this Aryan-german connection race myth because they think it elevates them somehow to be connected to Europeans.

Thanks for stopping by and the comment.

]]> By: dave http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/#comment-4009 dave Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:33:48 +0000 http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/#comment-4009 i saw the move on hbo for the first time sunday night (6/22/08). i could tell by the movie's pre-release trailers that racial overtones would be exploited. the first scenes after the spartan ethic was explained portrayed the persians as being black whose armies were peopled by slaves. did the screenwriter EVER read a history book? true, blacks lived all over the ancient world (greece, too) but the producers of this movie stupidly portrayed aryan (isn't that the root of "iran" who were previously known as persians)? are these the same aryans that that german guy with the funny mustache loved so much? hmm, he must be turning over in his grave now... back to black. even xerxes was portrayed as being black (or light brown which is how egyptologists portray the ancient egyptian ruling class. but that's another story. this movie reminds me that currents of a violently non-white (but expecially black) genocide continues as a popular desire in the minds of more than a few... i saw the move on hbo for the first time sunday night (6/22/08). i could tell by the movie’s pre-release trailers that racial overtones would be exploited. the first scenes after the spartan ethic was explained portrayed the persians as being black whose armies were peopled by slaves. did the screenwriter EVER read a history book? true, blacks lived all over the ancient world (greece, too) but the producers of this movie stupidly portrayed aryan (isn’t that the root of “iran” who were previously known as persians)? are these the same aryans that that german guy with the funny mustache loved so much? hmm, he must be turning over in his grave now… back to black. even xerxes was portrayed as being black (or light brown which is how egyptologists portray the ancient egyptian ruling class. but that’s another story. this movie reminds me that currents of a violently non-white (but expecially black) genocide continues as a popular desire in the minds of more than a few…

]]> By: Proud Bahraini http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/#comment-2130 Proud Bahraini Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:34:44 +0000 http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/#comment-2130 It is a shame how people like such a weird movie like 300 i watched the movie and i think Hollywood is full of crap, (AMERICAN MEDIA PROPAGANDA). It is a shame how people like such a weird movie like 300 i watched the movie and i think Hollywood is full of crap, (AMERICAN MEDIA PROPAGANDA).

]]> By: Mariam http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/#comment-1610 Mariam Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:43:19 +0000 http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/#comment-1610 Isa: I actually really liked babel. Why is there a problem with liking babel? And if there is, then it doesn't really matter because babel and 300 can't even be compared. And yeah I watch dumb movies too, especially romantic comedies, and I love most of them. But when a movie is BLATENTLY racist against ppl living across the sea from us (of course I have a problem with a movie that is racist against anyone), then I have a problem with it. Isa: I actually really liked babel. Why is there a problem with liking babel? And if there is, then it doesn’t really matter because babel and 300 can’t even be compared. And yeah I watch dumb movies too, especially romantic comedies, and I love most of them. But when a movie is BLATENTLY racist against ppl living across the sea from us (of course I have a problem with a movie that is racist against anyone), then I have a problem with it.

]]> By: XXX http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/#comment-1595 XXX Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:25:03 +0000 http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/#comment-1595 haha..Isa you are a idiot... haha..Isa you are a idiot…

]]> By: Isa http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/#comment-253 Isa Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:59:58 +0000 http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/#comment-253 Nanta: Please correct my spelling and let me know which words i mispelled thanks Nanta: Please correct my spelling and let me know which words i mispelled

thanks

]]> By: Isa http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/#comment-252 Isa Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:58:51 +0000 http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/#comment-252 Hahhahahahah.....You guys crack me up. I expected this reaction from you people...Yeah "you people" The people that think that a movie has to be an atristic movie, Don't get me wrong there are movies out there that hmmm...are just crap...Such as dude where is my car, or some movies like that. Maybe to some people 300 is, but to me i think its an "entertaining movie" Nido you have some amazing fans backing you up... I would like to talk this time to respond to my adoring fans that flattered me with their wonderful comments: Nanta: Thanks for the spell check when i have an essay i will post it and you can help me there Aigre-doux: No comment Sedation: Bring it On!!!!!!!! Elphino: HAHAHHAHHA Mariam: I go to a movie to relax have fun and remove the stress that we people get from such people like your self and Nido. I go there not analyize the movie, i go there to watch it. If every movie you go to you would analyize and not to enjoy....I'm guessing your a bore..(not a pig...i don't insult people)...its momela...I'm guessing you hated Babel too? Or had something to say about it... Finally Nido....(I have some Nido tendencies...) It is your blog and write whatever you wish on it. You say you are a self hating nedoer...What things do you do that offset the nido-side of yours. How are you better than the people you are commenting about. Anyway thanks for all the lovely comments provided... Take Care of Yourselves, Isa Hahhahahahah…..You guys crack me up. I expected this reaction from you people…Yeah “you people” The people that think that a movie has to be an atristic movie, Don’t get me wrong there are movies out there that hmmm…are just crap…Such as dude where is my car, or some movies like that. Maybe to some people 300 is, but to me i think its an “entertaining movie” Nido you have some amazing fans backing you up…

I would like to talk this time to respond to my adoring fans that flattered me with their wonderful comments:

Nanta: Thanks for the spell check when i have an essay i will post it and you can help me there
Aigre-doux: No comment
Sedation: Bring it On!!!!!!!!
Elphino: HAHAHHAHHA
Mariam: I go to a movie to relax have fun and remove the stress that we people get from such people like your self and Nido. I go there not analyize the movie, i go there to watch it. If every movie you go to you would analyize and not to enjoy….I’m guessing your a bore..(not a pig…i don’t insult people)…its momela…I’m guessing you hated Babel too? Or had something to say about it…

Finally Nido….(I have some Nido tendencies…) It is your blog and write whatever you wish on it. You say you are a self hating nedoer…What things do you do that offset the nido-side of yours. How are you better than the people you are commenting about.

Anyway thanks for all the lovely comments provided…

Take Care of Yourselves,

Isa

]]> By: Darius http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/#comment-251 Darius Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:49:53 +0000 http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/#comment-251 They should retitled the movie to 300 gay hairless men. A lot of slo mo, shouting, screaming, senseless decapitation, violence, inaccurate historic details etc etc. The type of movie that caters to the dumb generation of today. They should retitled the movie to 300 gay hairless men. A lot of slo mo, shouting, screaming, senseless decapitation, violence, inaccurate historic details etc etc. The type of movie that caters to the dumb generation of today.

]]> By: nido http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/#comment-236 nido Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:18:00 +0000 http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/#comment-236 Point taken dobber. If 300 was simply a "Die Hard 5: Brucie takes on the baddies" then I doubt much fuss would be made about it. The problem is that it has not been seen simply that way, and it doesn't seem from the comments of the director mentioned above that it was intended to simply be that. As mentioned previously, an explicit attempt to tie the movie to historical accounts has been made. Also, simply by browsing the internet it is easy to see that a huge swath of people have taken the movie to be more than just a fantasy blockbuster, with some people comparing the Spartans to the Bush administration, others to Israel, some others comparing it to "a clash of civilization" that is supposedly occuring now, etc. Point taken dobber.

If 300 was simply a “Die Hard 5: Brucie takes on the baddies” then I doubt much fuss would be made about it. The problem is that it has not been seen simply that way, and it doesn’t seem from the comments of the director mentioned above that it was intended to simply be that. As mentioned previously, an explicit attempt to tie the movie to historical accounts has been made. Also, simply by browsing the internet it is easy to see that a huge swath of people have taken the movie to be more than just a fantasy blockbuster, with some people comparing the Spartans to the Bush administration, others to Israel, some others comparing it to “a clash of civilization” that is supposedly occuring now, etc.

]]> By: dobber http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/#comment-232 dobber Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:58:43 +0000 http://nidomilk.wordpress.com/2007/03/29/the-movie-300-orientalism-alive-and-well/#comment-232 If Bruce Willis had starred in this film it would only need to have been called... '1' Whilst I really appreciate some of the comments on this blog (and the main article itself) about the film 300 and how it pertains to orientalism there has to be a line drawn somewhere. LOL at the numb-nuts who think that this film is some sort of neo-conservative propaganda being rolled-out to get the western public dancing to the 'axis-of-evil' tune. Like a piece of over-wrought cinematic entertainment is going to help bring about a third world war in the middle east. If Bruce Willis had starred in this film it would only need to have been called…

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Whilst I really appreciate some of the comments on this blog (and the main article itself) about the film 300 and how it pertains to orientalism there has to be a line drawn somewhere.

LOL at the numb-nuts who think that this film is some sort of neo-conservative propaganda being rolled-out to get the western public dancing to the ‘axis-of-evil’ tune. Like a piece of over-wrought cinematic entertainment is going to help bring about a third world war in the middle east.

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